# Multiple products

**URL:** <https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/multiple-products/586>\
**Category:** Uncategorized\
**Created:** [October 16, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/multiple-products/586 "2020-10-16T04:27:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/db5fbb/32.png) [@fred](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/fred)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/multiple-products/586/1 "2020-10-16T04:27:13Z")

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Does anyone have experience with using shape up with multiple products and multiple teams? Are all bets considered at once across all products?

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**Author:** ![vorcigernix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/discourse.learnshapeup.com/vorcigernix/32/375_2.png) [@vorcigernix](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/vorcigernix)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/multiple-products/586/2 "2020-10-20T16:47:10Z")

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Just an idea: think about the value streams. I’d say that for one vale stream you should run just one bet. Alternatively, OKRs. What are strategic goals and what are possible bets to that can be aligned to them.

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**Author:** ![justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/discourse.learnshapeup.com/justin/32/429_2.png) [@justin](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/justin)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/multiple-products/586/3 "2020-11-09T21:11:54Z")

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If the products don’t have team overlap then your bets are going to be for each product. We have multiple teams that all work on different products using Shape Up. Even though our shapers are involved in each betting table meeting, we don’t pit products against each other. We allocate teams to products at a higher level, not on a cycle-by-cycle basis. Note that by “teams” here I don’t mean who works on which _project_ in a cycle, rather who works on which _product_ long term. Who works on which _project_ for a _product_ is always done each cycle during betting.