# Latest

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## [Multiple products](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/multiple-products/586)

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**Author:** [@fred](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/fred)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 9, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/multiple-products/586 "2020-11-09T21:11:54Z")

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Does anyone have experience with using shape up with multiple products and multiple teams? Are all bets considered at once across all products?

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## [Scaling Shape Up and dealing with dependencies](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/scaling-shape-up-and-dealing-with-dependencies/581)

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**Author:** [@janmikula](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/janmikula)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [November 8, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/scaling-shape-up-and-dealing-with-dependencies/581 "2020-11-08T16:18:12Z")

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One thing that is recommended in Shape Up is that each mini-project should not have external dependencies for the team to be “in control of their destiny”. I feel that Basecamp is solving that mainly by keeping the compa…

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## [Running ideas past technical team](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/running-ideas-past-technical-team/598)

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**Author:** [@m\_chadwick](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/m_chadwick)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [November 6, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/running-ideas-past-technical-team/598 "2020-11-06T16:56:41Z")

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Just wondering what people do for running their ideas past a developer. One of the main concepts of shape up is to enable your build team to focus and know they will have their time to focus on building the current shap…

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## [Our Shape Up experience at Salsita Sotware](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/our-shape-up-experience-at-salsita-sotware/510)

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**Author:** [@janmikula](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/janmikula)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [November 5, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/our-shape-up-experience-at-salsita-sotware/510 "2020-11-05T22:32:21Z")

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Not sure, if it will be interesting for anyone, but in Salsita a few months ago we started using on our internal project and I wrote down our experience. There are two things that can be somehow interesting for people h…

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## [Any stories of Shape Up adoption failures?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/any-stories-of-shape-up-adoption-failures/550)

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**Author:** [@rscheuermann](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/rscheuermann)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [October 31, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/any-stories-of-shape-up-adoption-failures/550 "2020-10-31T16:01:01Z")

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We’re about to adopt Shape Up on our team. We’re very excited. I’m also seeing some distinct risks. I’m curious if there are any stories from folks who have tried and failed to implement Shape Up or failed to get great …

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## [Sharing roadmaps with Shape up](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/sharing-roadmaps-with-shape-up/476)

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**Author:** [@tony\_ln](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/tony_ln)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [October 16, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/sharing-roadmaps-with-shape-up/476 "2020-10-16T16:55:37Z")

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Planning months into the future to generate a roadmap makes me feel uneasy. It’s the commitment and expectation. The mental tax is costly. It’s my understanding Shape Up advocates for working on the next most important t…

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## [How long does the shape up process take? What is the process to select what to shape up?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/how-long-does-the-shape-up-process-take-what-is-the-process-to-select-what-to-shape-up/560)

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**Author:** [@irispan](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/irispan)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2020, 9:10pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/how-long-does-the-shape-up-process-take-what-is-the-process-to-select-what-to-shape-up/560 "2020-10-09T21:10:53Z")

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I understand the build cycle is 6 weeks. But how long does the shape up process itself take? Also, what is the process to select what to shape up?

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## [Utilizing Shape - Up in a non-digital world](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/utilizing-shape-up-in-a-non-digital-world/167)

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**Author:** [@Kbeaty](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/Kbeaty)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 30, 2020, 9:00am UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/utilizing-shape-up-in-a-non-digital-world/167 "2020-09-30T09:00:32Z")

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So, I am an Academy Director who oversees the growth of our academy (public out reach through community programs,…etc). As well as, player development. I am curious, does anyone have experience/examples of utilizing Sha…

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## [How to learn "fast" and "cheap" with Shape Up?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/how-to-learn-fast-and-cheap-with-shape-up/175)

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**Author:** [@T.G](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/T.G)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 19, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/how-to-learn-fast-and-cheap-with-shape-up/175 "2020-09-19T23:25:14Z")

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Hello! I am super happy that this forum exists. We are considering adopting Shape Up across our teams but I have a few questions that I hope you guys can help with. Before we release to production we use a number of t…

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## [Test Case Documentation: Alternatives to Zephyr](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/test-case-documentation-alternatives-to-zephyr/540)

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**Author:** [@nt-from-chicago](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/nt-from-chicago)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2020, 6:18am UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/test-case-documentation-alternatives-to-zephyr/540 "2020-09-15T06:18:00Z")

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I’m currently transitioning a team from Agile to Shape Up. QA is seeing the biggest change because we’re leaving JIRA + QA is handled very differently in Shape Up. The departing PM and QA both said that leaving JIRA is …

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## [Releasing to production in Shape Up](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/releasing-to-production-in-shape-up/535)

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**Author:** [@janmikula](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/janmikula)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 12, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/releasing-to-production-in-shape-up/535 "2020-09-12T14:43:28Z")

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I’m curious how in Basecamp and other companies using Shape Up are handled releases. Let’s say you’re working on a bigger feature and you dedicate whole 6 weeks to it. When do you do a release? Last day of the cycle? (…

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## [Handling feedback and raw ideas](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/handling-feedback-and-raw-ideas/366)

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**Author:** [@JoshAntBrown](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/JoshAntBrown)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [September 11, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/handling-feedback-and-raw-ideas/366 "2020-09-11T23:21:45Z")

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One of the challenges we’re facing at the moment is how we handle feedback and ideas from our customers and other parts of the company. In Shape Up I noticed this paragraph from chapter 3: Our default response to any …

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## [My first Pitch - Focusing on problems only. Is that Okay?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/my-first-pitch-focusing-on-problems-only-is-that-okay/307)

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**Author:** [@jordan](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/jordan)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [September 6, 2020, 3:42am UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/my-first-pitch-focusing-on-problems-only-is-that-okay/307 "2020-09-06T03:42:44Z")

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Hi, I enjoyed reading shape up. I have had to introduce it slowly to the team I work on. Certainly I am breaking some rules here but I started with a “half pitch”. Defining only the problems to be addressed and the sco…

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## [Is there such a thing as Cycle breaking work?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/is-there-such-a-thing-as-cycle-breaking-work/522)

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**Author:** [@gongo](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/gongo)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 1, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/is-there-such-a-thing-as-cycle-breaking-work/522 "2020-09-01T17:36:00Z")

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You’ve started working on your cycle all teams are working towards big and small batch projects that you’ve bet on, and all of a sudden a critical bug arises! This bug has large potential impacts to the business and nee…

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## [I'm struggling to give our design team enough work](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/im-struggling-to-give-our-design-team-enough-work/503)

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**Author:** [@samsles](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/samsles)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [August 27, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/im-struggling-to-give-our-design-team-enough-work/503 "2020-08-27T23:47:09Z")

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Our team recently started using Shape Up and things are generally going well, however, our design team has reported that they tend to be very busy at the beginning of a project (when they are actively whipping up deliver…

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## [Demand thinking](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/demand-thinking/499)

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**Author:** [@blairrorani](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/blairrorani)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 25, 2020, 1:38pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/demand-thinking/499 "2020-08-25T13:38:13Z")

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I was recently inspired by rewatching the videos on the Demand Thinking YT channel. My understanding is that Shape Up is mostly about execution post identifying the demand (I know there is a chapter about starting from …

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## [Limit access to pitches?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/limit-access-to-pitches/468)

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**Author:** [@conradj](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/conradj)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/limit-access-to-pitches/468 "2020-08-05T22:37:57Z")

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I’m running a Shape Up book club at the moment and someone asked why in Chapter 6 Basecamp limit access to pitches to those that are part of the betting table only. Re-reading it, I’m not quite clear on if that means pi…

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## [How to improve developer-led project management within build cycles?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/how-to-improve-developer-led-project-management-within-build-cycles/455)

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**Author:** [@elliottperks](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/elliottperks)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [July 23, 2020, 12:47pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/how-to-improve-developer-led-project-management-within-build-cycles/455 "2020-07-23T12:47:11Z")

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Hi all, I’m the Product Owner in team of 6 developers, 2 UI designers, 1 QA, a head of development and a CTO. Our company is called Tempo, and we’re based in London. We’ve been doing Shape Up for the past 8 months, and …

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## [Our pitches are full of must-haves. Need help to convince CEO to trust the teams!](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/our-pitches-are-full-of-must-haves-need-help-to-convince-ceo-to-trust-the-teams/440)

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**Author:** [@georgecrawford](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/georgecrawford)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [July 18, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/our-pitches-are-full-of-must-haves-need-help-to-convince-ceo-to-trust-the-teams/440 "2020-07-18T16:11:48Z")

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Our 12-person startup has been using Shape Up successfully for a few months. While most of the process is working brilliantly, we do have one stumbling block. Our CEO wants to add lots of ‘must-haves’ to the pitch so sh…

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## [Our First Shape-up Experience at kata.ai](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/our-first-shape-up-experience-at-kata-ai/407)

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**Author:** [@welly](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/welly)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [July 6, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/our-first-shape-up-experience-at-kata-ai/407 "2020-07-06T16:15:17Z")

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Hi All, My name welly from kata.ai. Basically we are a big fans of basecamp and using it from jan 2020. We also read all the basecamp books and it’s been an awesome knowledge booster for us. Just want to share our expe…

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## [Normal for Pitch to already contain nice-to-haves?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/normal-for-pitch-to-already-contain-nice-to-haves/383)

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**Author:** [@gongo](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/gongo)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [June 19, 2020, 3:00pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/normal-for-pitch-to-already-contain-nice-to-haves/383 "2020-06-19T15:00:58Z")

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Hello! Our company is going into our very first cycle (very excited)! As we are shifting over from scrum/spotify squad model, some of our first pitches are derivative of former Epics, and it seems like they already hav…

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## [Breadboarding notation with 3rd party Integrations](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/breadboarding-notation-with-3rd-party-integrations/376)

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**Author:** [@tony\_ln](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/tony_ln)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/breadboarding-notation-with-3rd-party-integrations/376 "2020-06-11T16:43:31Z")

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Has anyone discovered a breadboarding notation they like for 3rd party integrations? I’m exploring some 3rd party integrations and this is what I landed on. It feels ok. It’s rapid enough for the process and I can speak …

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## [Does shape up extend to the entire company?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/does-shape-up-extend-to-the-entire-company/359)

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**Author:** [@brian](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/brian)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [June 5, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/does-shape-up-extend-to-the-entire-company/359 "2020-06-05T16:30:52Z")

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First, thank you for being so transparent as to the inner workings of your company. I’m resonating with so much of the philosophy behind the shape up method as well as many other insights you have shared regarding how yo…

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## [Tools or templates to map out communication / logic / rules](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/tools-or-templates-to-map-out-communication-logic-rules/363)

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**Author:** [@Gary](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/Gary)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [May 29, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/tools-or-templates-to-map-out-communication-logic-rules/363 "2020-05-29T14:40:07Z")

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Anyone know of any great tools or templates to map out communication / logic / rules between different platforms. To prevent overlap of different comms. i.e. 3 diff Msging Platforms: Marketing + Platform + Sales + Suppo…

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## [High impact essays related to shape up](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/high-impact-essays-related-to-shape-up/332)

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**Author:** [@jordan](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/jordan)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [May 8, 2020, 5:11am UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/high-impact-essays-related-to-shape-up/332 "2020-05-08T05:11:04Z")

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Shape Up and Competing Against Luck have really impacted how I approach building products. Am I master of these thinking tools? no, not yet. Certainly there is no substitute for getting your hands dirty and talking to …

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## [Shorter cycle lengths? Variable cycle lengths?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/shorter-cycle-lengths-variable-cycle-lengths/213)

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**Author:** [@jstayton](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/jstayton)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [April 25, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/shorter-cycle-lengths-variable-cycle-lengths/213 "2020-04-25T17:31:44Z")

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:wave: I’m curious if anyone is doing shorter cycle lengths than six weeks? The Adjust to Your Size appendix says: Six weeks might not be the exact time frame for your team. We’re a small(ish) startup with five eng…

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## [What is your experience of bringing Shape Up to client work?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/what-is-your-experience-of-bringing-shape-up-to-client-work/87)

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**Author:** [@marcano](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/marcano)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [April 24, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/what-is-your-experience-of-bringing-shape-up-to-client-work/87 "2020-04-24T22:45:20Z")

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Hi everyone, I’m really interested in learning from individuals who brought Shape Up practices to their client work. Specifically freelancers/solo consultants. The past few years of client work usually start out the sa…

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## [Thoughts on Forging](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/thoughts-on-forging/315)

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**Author:** [@nt-from-chicago](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/nt-from-chicago)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [April 24, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/thoughts-on-forging/315 "2020-04-24T16:36:41Z")

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Hi @rjs! I’ve been following your latest Twitter threads. Very interested in this pre-shape phase as I do a bit of it myself. As I am terrible at Twitter, my thoughts here: My first went to fencing. I imagined myself pu…

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## [Should we think about scopes during shaping?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/should-we-think-about-scopes-during-shaping/303)

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**Author:** [@mattdonovan](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/mattdonovan)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [April 15, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/should-we-think-about-scopes-during-shaping/303 "2020-04-15T20:52:59Z")

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Our team kind of struggles with scoping. I know it’s inherently difficult, but in 6 months I’ve gotten one team to scope a project as outlined in Shape Up and I’ve been wondering if it makes sense for a pitch to have som…

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## [How to deal with very small projects/tasks?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/how-to-deal-with-very-small-projects-tasks/86)

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**Author:** [@mak](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/mak)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [April 14, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/how-to-deal-with-very-small-projects-tasks/86 "2020-04-14T18:56:39Z")

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As lots of others we are coming from the agile-world and currently have a backlog overflown with lots of projects of various sizes. There are a lot of very small tasks, certainly smaller than the “small batch” project o…

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