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## [What practices are you doing to protect your team from outside interruption/distractions?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/what-practices-are-you-doing-to-protect-your-team-from-outside-interruption-distractions/885)

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**Author:** [@jvillarejo](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/jvillarejo)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [January 11, 2022, 10:43am UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/what-practices-are-you-doing-to-protect-your-team-from-outside-interruption-distractions/885 "2022-01-11T10:43:19Z")

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Hey Shapers! What do you do to make sure your team is focused on building and other people from your organization don’t interrupt them? Is this something you are having problems? This came to me when reading @nt-from-…

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## [Betting Table Cadence](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/betting-table-cadence/878)

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**Author:** [@mhl66](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/mhl66)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [January 11, 2022, 10:33am UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/betting-table-cadence/878 "2022-01-11T10:33:59Z")

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How are betting tables cadenced, e.g., one every two weeks and another every 6 weeks in parallel, based on trigger point replenishment, i.e., when a single queue of pitch submissions is reached, etc.?

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## [A (free) cycle without betting table. Any experience?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/a-free-cycle-without-betting-table-any-experience/884)

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**Author:** [@jvillarejo](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/jvillarejo)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 20, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/a-free-cycle-without-betting-table-any-experience/884 "2021-12-20T17:31:35Z")

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Hey good people, I wanted to share here this experiment we called “Free cycle” We are a small team (10 people only) and because of the holiday season, the whole team would not be available so was difficult to plan a no…

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## [What tools do you use for Shaping while async & remote?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/what-tools-do-you-use-for-shaping-while-async-remote/862)

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**Author:** [@shavin47](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/shavin47)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [December 14, 2021, 3:55am UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/what-tools-do-you-use-for-shaping-while-async-remote/862 "2021-12-14T03:55:07Z")

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Hey folks, At my previous org, we use to do a mix of collaborating on Miro (sync) and Basecamp (async) to take a raw idea to a fully shaped pitch. We’d figure out the broad strokes of the demand side problem and then my…

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## [DecisionOps for Shape Up](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/decisionops-for-shape-up/882)

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**Author:** [@mhl66](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/mhl66)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [December 13, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/decisionops-for-shape-up/882 "2021-12-13T22:53:34Z")

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Anyone have any thoughts on modifications, if any, they have made or where the biggest issues in adopting any of these processes have been?

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## [Do you separate Shapers and Builders much?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/do-you-separate-shapers-and-builders-much/821)

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**Author:** [@Artem](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/Artem)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 13, 2021, 10:36pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/do-you-separate-shapers-and-builders-much/821 "2021-12-13T22:36:07Z")

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Ryan writes that a small team doesn’t often need full fledges cycles and when there are just 2-3 people, you can shape for few days, work for some time and repeat - Adjust to Your Size | Shape Up What happens when you s…

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## [Who wants to program all the decision rules from Shape Up into Coda?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/who-wants-to-program-all-the-decision-rules-from-shape-up-into-coda/875)

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**Author:** [@mhl66](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/mhl66)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [December 11, 2021, 3:31pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/who-wants-to-program-all-the-decision-rules-from-shape-up-into-coda/875 "2021-12-11T15:31:55Z")

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http://coda.io

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## [Getting buy-in for Shape Up - Summarised Powerpoint Version of the Book](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/getting-buy-in-for-shape-up-summarised-powerpoint-version-of-the-book/149)

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**Author:** [@RubyK](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/RubyK)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [November 3, 2021, 5:54am UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/getting-buy-in-for-shape-up-summarised-powerpoint-version-of-the-book/149 "2021-11-03T05:54:59Z")

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Hi, At AskNicely we are in the early stages of trailing Shape Up and I have focused heavily on getting proper buy in from the various stakeholders before we kick off. A challenge we faced was that only a few of us actu…

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## [What do you do when developers run out of things to do during the cycle?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/what-do-you-do-when-developers-run-out-of-things-to-do-during-the-cycle/858)

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**Author:** [@Artem](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/Artem)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2021, 11:44pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/what-do-you-do-when-developers-run-out-of-things-to-do-during-the-cycle/858 "2021-09-26T23:44:09Z")

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Hi all We are not using ShapeUp yet, going to give it a try soon, so trying to clarify some things about the process. What happens if you’ve allocated whole cycle to some good project and developers managed to finish i…

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## [Hiring PMs within Shape Up](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/hiring-pms-within-shape-up/856)

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**Author:** [@samschmitz](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/samschmitz)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 22, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/hiring-pms-within-shape-up/856 "2021-09-22T16:40:56Z")

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Hey all! Our product \<\> engineering org are in our first build cycle. The whole organization is overwhelmingly excited to see how all the hard work of our 6 pitches will turn out. Lots of learnings already from this fir…

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## [How Avocode Improved Development Process 10x with Shape Up (+ Notion template)](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/how-avocode-improved-development-process-10x-with-shape-up-notion-template/702)

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**Author:** [@crashmajstr](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/crashmajstr)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 4, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/how-avocode-improved-development-process-10x-with-shape-up-notion-template/702 "2021-09-04T21:52:39Z")

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Hey guys, I just wanted to share with you my latest blog post about Avocode’s story behind the Shape up implementation. It’s been almost a year since we started our way to adopting Shape Up process at Avocode. Although t…

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## [How can you use shape up for marketing?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/how-can-you-use-shape-up-for-marketing/834)

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**Author:** [@MarkyT](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/MarkyT)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 2, 2021, 8:57am UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/how-can-you-use-shape-up-for-marketing/834 "2021-09-02T08:57:33Z")

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Hi everyone, I’m new to shape up so apologies if this is a noob question! I can instantly see the application of shaping up for product development, but can it also be used for marketing? We are currently defining our…

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## [What do you do when Shaping needs much research work AKA figuring rabbit holes patches needs much work?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/what-do-you-do-when-shaping-needs-much-research-work-aka-figuring-rabbit-holes-patches-needs-much-work/841)

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**Author:** [@Artem](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/Artem)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 8, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/what-do-you-do-when-shaping-needs-much-research-work-aka-figuring-rabbit-holes-patches-needs-much-work/841 "2021-07-08T19:20:04Z")

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For example, imagine that you have an issue with understanding the customer issues with your service and want to implement a universal logging on backend, frontend, iOS and Android app so that you could have a closer loo…

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## [Patterns of the user story map](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/patterns-of-the-user-story-map/836)

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**Author:** [@mhl66](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/mhl66)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 26, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/patterns-of-the-user-story-map/836 "2021-06-26T18:11:58Z")

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How might a user story map support/integrate into teams shaping?

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## [When a build cycle ends, do/should you take stock of the outcomes?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/when-a-build-cycle-ends-do-should-you-take-stock-of-the-outcomes/412)

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**Author:** [@rflprr](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/rflprr)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [June 21, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/when-a-build-cycle-ends-do-should-you-take-stock-of-the-outcomes/412 "2021-06-21T15:07:02Z")

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In accordance to the fixed time and flexible scope premise of shape up, at the end of the build cycle, chances are there will be gaps/differences between pitched scope vs. realized scope. Do you revisit pitched vs. real…

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## [How to teach your team about the "appetite" idea/concept?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/how-to-teach-your-team-about-the-appetite-idea-concept/288)

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**Author:** [@robalm](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/robalm)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [June 18, 2021, 9:12am UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/how-to-teach-your-team-about-the-appetite-idea-concept/288 "2021-06-18T09:12:55Z")

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Hey, :wave: I am from a small profitable company (20 people) in Brazil. We build software and had some products on our portfolio. Since Oct 2019 we are using some of the Shape Up book concepts to build new and improve…

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## [Outcome tree to guide demand-side shaping](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/outcome-tree-to-guide-demand-side-shaping/809)

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**Author:** [@mhl66](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/mhl66)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 17, 2021, 2:03pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/outcome-tree-to-guide-demand-side-shaping/809 "2021-06-17T14:03:43Z")

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Anyone have thoughts on how to use an opportunity solution tree (demand-side shaping) to support pitch creation (supply-side shaping)? @nt-from-chicago @rjs @maxhodges @Justin Any thoughts @trust\_level\_4 @trust\_level\_3……

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## [Open Position - Principal Engineer](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/open-position-principal-engineer/819)

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**Author:** [@justin](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/justin)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 16, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/open-position-principal-engineer/819 "2021-06-16T22:59:45Z")

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Hey Everyone, I have an open position for a software engineer. Position is remote, salary range is 125 - 165. DM me on twitter (jujodi) if you or someone you know is interested. Happy to answer any questions here about …

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## [Design, User Research & Shape Up](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/design-user-research-shape-up/475)

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**Author:** [@flo2sa](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/flo2sa)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/design-user-research-shape-up/475 "2021-06-11T22:43:06Z")

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Hi everyone ! How do you manage to find enough time to conduct user research and user testing on design prototypes before starting to build ? During shaping there’s only a very high-level UX thinking. When building sta…

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## [What do you do when some projects require quite a specialized team?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/what-do-you-do-when-some-projects-require-quite-a-specialized-team/816)

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**Author:** [@Artem](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/Artem)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/what-do-you-do-when-some-projects-require-quite-a-specialized-team/816 "2021-06-11T21:41:24Z")

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Take a small cross-functional team working on a mobile app-based service: one iOS developer, one Android developer, one backend developer and maybe somebody for the web interface. Management agrees to a bet for integrati…

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## [Shapers VS builders. How do shapers keep connected to the engineering side of things?](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/shapers-vs-builders-how-do-shapers-keep-connected-to-the-engineering-side-of-things/815)

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**Author:** [@Artem](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/Artem)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/shapers-vs-builders-how-do-shapers-keep-connected-to-the-engineering-side-of-things/815 "2021-06-11T14:40:50Z")

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One thing I am very clear about in ShapeUp is on how separated Shapers are from Builders (in the teams large enough to have them specialized as the guide recommends). If the most senior engineers work mostly (or complet…

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## [Shaping Shape Up](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/shaping-shape-up/790)

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**Author:** [@mhl66](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/mhl66)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 9, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/shaping-shape-up/790 "2021-06-09T21:44:35Z")

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What are some of the biggest changes you made when adapting the process to your team/organization that proved to be effective? Here are a few of mine: All full stack product teams (empowered cross-functional stream-al…

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## [Acceptance criteria (specification by example)](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/acceptance-criteria-specification-by-example/806)

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**Author:** [@mhl66](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/mhl66)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [June 9, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/acceptance-criteria-specification-by-example/806 "2021-06-09T21:43:16Z")

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When would it make sense to craft acceptance criteria, and where would you incorporate it, e.g., the first ~2 weeks of a six-week build cycle during task discovery or at the finished pitch stage and embed it into a brea…

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## [Ryan Singer, please keep writing](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/ryan-singer-please-keep-writing/803)

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**Author:** [@shavin47](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/shavin47)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [June 9, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/ryan-singer-please-keep-writing/803 "2021-06-09T19:24:29Z")

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Hey Ryan, I’ve fondly followed the Shape Up book and the many conferences, youtube videos, demand thinking podcasts and more recently, the newsletters. I’ve often felt that your teachings have been one of the highest si…

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## [Technical Revision](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/technical-revision/799)

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**Author:** [@Yulia](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/Yulia)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 9, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/technical-revision/799 "2021-06-09T19:22:05Z")

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I have encountered the same problem several times. The Pitch is solved from the functional point of view. There is a breadboarding, Tech leads approved the Pitch, there is clear business value defined. However, when th…

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## [Avoid appetite deviations](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/avoid-appetite-deviations/756)

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**Author:** [@mhl66](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/mhl66)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [June 9, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/avoid-appetite-deviations/756 "2021-06-09T19:20:42Z")

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When shaping a 2, 4, or 6-week cycle batch, what are the best ways to determine what looks like 2, 4, or 6 weeks so we do not write a pitch that is destined to result in deviations from the stated appetite? Would, for e…

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## [Number of scopes and tasks per six-week batch](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/number-of-scopes-and-tasks-per-six-week-batch/804)

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**Author:** [@mhl66](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/mhl66)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [June 9, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/number-of-scopes-and-tasks-per-six-week-batch/804 "2021-06-09T19:18:24Z")

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Generally, there are 5-10 scopes per 6 week project (6 six-week projects per year), and 1-20 tasks per scope. However, it is possible that scopes are more fine-grained, e.g., projects might have 25 scopes and fewer tasks…

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## [Pitching in Miro](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/pitching-in-miro/772)

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**Author:** [@bensome](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/bensome)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [May 20, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/pitching-in-miro/772 "2021-05-20T18:02:02Z")

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Hey, we’ve recently introduced shaping and pitching to our team’s workflow and we’re still experimenting with handoff between the different levels in the organization. My dev and design team is very comfortable with Mir…

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## [Shape Up and Empowered teams](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/shape-up-and-empowered-teams/789)

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**Author:** [@christopher](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/christopher)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [May 4, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/shape-up-and-empowered-teams/789 "2021-05-04T14:01:08Z")

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“There’s always been this kind of unwritten rule at Basecamp that the company basically exists for David and Jason’s enjoyment,” This quote from the last paragraph of this article . Changing context from the one the art…

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## [My ShapeUp Project has an imbalance of FE to BE resources](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/my-shapeup-project-has-an-imbalance-of-fe-to-be-resources/229)

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**Author:** [@Ervin](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/u/Ervin)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [April 29, 2021, 11:36am UTC](https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/my-shapeup-project-has-an-imbalance-of-fe-to-be-resources/229 "2021-04-29T11:36:47Z")

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I am shaping up my first ShapeUp project I find myself in a position where the project that is shaped requires a large amount of a Front End resource and a small amount of a Back End resource. (My team is 2 FE and 2 BE r…

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